Someone showed me a computer this weekend with a virus that I could not even beat in safe mode. All I could do was to re-install Windows. The best I could do was to get the task bar to pop up for a split second. In safe mode the computer just restarts into regular mode and went back to this screen.
I had to use a camera to take a picture of it.
Another problem is that Malwayre-Bytes anti Malware (MBAM) no longer offers a thorough search and even once I re-installed windows it did not detect the virus as it was in "Old Windows". Then there is Microsoft security essentials that will not do a scan unless you are connected to the Internet to do an update.....